Scoring questions

Computer Bob bob at
Mon Jan 29 20:39:39 CET 2018

I also agree that at this point auto learn should be off and cleared as 
I have done.
But I still continue to get garbage mails through showing headers such as:

X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: 0.61
X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.61 tagged_above=-9999 required=5
	HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001,
	autolearn=no autolearn_force=no

And as I said, when I run them through SA at the command line they seem 
to score correctly.
The scores being given in the headers can't be correct as they all are 
similarly low and wrong.
An interesting note is that if I try and forward one of these received, 
they get flagged and sent to spam.
Without knowing the intricacies of the amavis procedural steps, or were 
to start, it is not possible for me to troubleshoot.

On 1/29/18 1:20 PM, Dino Edwards wrote:
> I disagree it's bad advice considering it's autolearn that seems to be creating at least some of the problems he's experiencing.
> However, I do agree, the AutoLearn Threshold should definitely be set IF you are going to be using autolearn but in my experience auto-learn creates more problems than it solves. I believe that only humans should be be used for training the bayes database. Auto-learning has the tendency to exaggerate issues over time.
> Keep it simple for now and train your bayes database and after you've trained it and it's scoring well, then consider using autolearn.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amavis-users [ at] On Behalf Of Benny Pedersen
> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2018 1:06 PM
> To: amavis-users at
> Subject: Re: Re: Scoring questions
> Computer Bob skrev den 2018-01-29 18:57:
>> I assume you mean bayes_auto_learn in I set it to 0 from 1
>> and restarted.
> yes its just bad advise, but setting this is what disables autolearn
> i suggest see autolearnthreashold instaed
> bayes_auto_learn_threshold_nonspam -5
> bayes_auto_learn_threshold_spam 7.5
> let the spammers win now :)

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