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    <p><font face="monospace">Hi</font></p>
    <p><font face="monospace">At first I started it with the startup
        script of course. Since it didn't start, I tried manually as
        root to have the full log</font></p>
    <p><font face="monospace">But wait !</font></p>
    <p><font face="monospace">I gave a new try, and it resumed working.
        Strange.</font></p>
    <p><font face="monospace">At first, it said in maillog :</font></p>
    <p> </p>
    <blockquote type="cite"><font face="monospace">amavis[19395]:
        (!!)TROUBLE in pre_loop_hook: config: no rules were found!  Do
        you need to run 'sa-update'?<br>
        amavis[19395]: (!)_DIE: Suicide () TROUBLE in pre_loop_hook:
        config: no rules were found!  Do you need to run 'sa-update'?</font></blockquote>
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    <p><font face="monospace">Xavier</font></p>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 17/10/2025 11:05, Xavier Humbert a
      écrit :<br>
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        lang="x-unicode">Hi <br>
        <br>
        I just upgraded from 4.0.1 to 4.0.2 on FreebSD 14.3-STABLE, then
        amavis won't start anymore : <br>
        <br>
        root@numenor ~]# amavisd <br>
        fetch_modules: error loading optional module
        Razor2/Client/Agent.pm: <br>
          Can't locate Getopt/Long.pm:   lib/Getopt/Long.pm: Permission
        denied at
        /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/mach/5.40/Razor2/Client/Agent.pm
        line 15. <br>
          BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at
        /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/mach/5.40/Razor2/Client/Agent.pm
        line 15. <br>
          Compilation failed in require at
        /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/Amavis/Boot.pm line 77. <br>
        fetch_modules: error loading optional module Mail/DKIM.pm: <br>
          Can't locate Mail/DKIM.pm:   lib/Mail/DKIM.pm: Permission
        denied at /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/Amavis/Boot.pm line 77.
        <br>
        fetch_modules: error loading optional module Image/Info.pm: <br>
          Can't locate Image/Info.pm:   lib/Image/Info.pm: Permission
        denied at /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/Amavis/Boot.pm line 77.
        <br>
        fetch_modules: error loading optional module Image/Info/GIF.pm:
        <br>
          Can't locate Image/Info/GIF.pm:   lib/Image/Info/GIF.pm:
        Permission denied at
        /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/Amavis/Boot.pm line 77. <br>
        fetch_modules: error loading optional module Image/Info/JPEG.pm:
        <br>
          Can't locate Image/Info/JPEG.pm:   lib/Image/Info/JPEG.pm:
        Permission denied at
        /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/Amavis/Boot.pm line 77. <br>
        fetch_modules: error loading optional module Image/Info/PNG.pm:
        <br>
          Can't locate Image/Info/PNG.pm:   lib/Image/Info/PNG.pm:
        Permission denied at
        /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/Amavis/Boot.pm line 77. <br>
        fetch_modules: error loading optional module Image/Info/BMP.pm:
        <br>
          Can't locate Image/Info/BMP.pm:   lib/Image/Info/BMP.pm:
        Permission denied at
        /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/Amavis/Boot.pm line 77. <br>
        fetch_modules: error loading optional module Image/Info/TIFF.pm:
        <br>
          Can't locate Image/Info/TIFF.pm:   lib/Image/Info/TIFF.pm:
        Permission denied at
        /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/Amavis/Boot.pm line 77. <br>
        fetch_modules: error loading optional module Mail/SPF.pm: <br>
          Can't locate Mail/SPF.pm:   lib/Mail/SPF.pm: Permission denied
        at /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/Amavis/Boot.pm line 77. <br>
        fetch_modules: error loading optional module Mail/SPF/Server.pm:
        <br>
          Can't locate Mail/SPF/Server.pm:   lib/Mail/SPF/Server.pm:
        Permission denied at
        /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/Amavis/Boot.pm line 77. <br>
        fetch_modules: error loading optional module
        Mail/SPF/Request.pm: <br>
          Can't locate Mail/SPF/Request.pm:   lib/Mail/SPF/Request.pm:
        Permission denied at
        /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/Amavis/Boot.pm line 77. <br>
        fetch_modules: error loading optional module Mail/SPF/Mech.pm: <br>
          Can't locate Mail/SPF/Mech.pm:   lib/Mail/SPF/Mech.pm:
        Permission denied at
        /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/Amavis/Boot.pm line 77. <br>
        fetch_modules: error loading optional module Mail/SPF/Mech/A.pm:
        <br>
          Can't locate Mail/SPF/Mech/A.pm:   lib/Mail/SPF/Mech/A.pm:
        Permission denied at
        /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/Amavis/Boot.pm line 77. <br>
        fetch_modules: error loading optional module
        Mail/SPF/Mech/PTR.pm: <br>
          Can't locate Mail/SPF/Mech/PTR.pm:   lib/Mail/SPF/Mech/PTR.pm:
        Permission denied at
        /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/Amavis/Boot.pm line 77. <br>
        fetch_modules: error loading optional module
        Mail/SPF/Mech/All.pm: <br>
          Can't locate Mail/SPF/Mech/All.pm:   lib/Mail/SPF/Mech/All.pm:
        Permission denied at
        /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/Amavis/Boot.pm line 77. <br>
        fetch_modules: error loading optional module
        Mail/SPF/Mech/Exists.pm: <br>
          Can't locate Mail/SPF/Mech/Exists.pm:
         lib/Mail/SPF/Mech/Exists.pm: Permission denied at
        /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/Amavis/Boot.pm line 77. <br>
        fetch_modules: error loading optional module
        Mail/SPF/Mech/IP4.pm: <br>
          Can't locate Mail/SPF/Mech/IP4.pm:   lib/Mail/SPF/Mech/IP4.pm:
        Permission denied at
        /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/Amavis/Boot.pm line 77. <br>
        fetch_modules: error loading optional module
        Mail/SPF/Mech/IP6.pm: <br>
          Can't locate Mail/SPF/Mech/IP6.pm:   lib/Mail/SPF/Mech/IP6.pm:
        Permission denied at
        /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/Amavis/Boot.pm line 77. <br>
        fetch_modules: error loading optional module
        Mail/SPF/Mech/Include.pm: <br>
          Can't locate Mail/SPF/Mech/Include.pm:
         lib/Mail/SPF/Mech/Include.pm: Permission denied at
        /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/Amavis/Boot.pm line 77. <br>
        fetch_modules: error loading optional module
        Mail/SPF/Mech/MX.pm: <br>
          Can't locate Mail/SPF/Mech/MX.pm:   lib/Mail/SPF/Mech/MX.pm:
        Permission denied at
        /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/Amavis/Boot.pm line 77. <br>
        fetch_modules: error loading optional module Mail/SPF/Mod.pm: <br>
          Can't locate Mail/SPF/Mod.pm:   lib/Mail/SPF/Mod.pm:
        Permission denied at
        /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/Amavis/Boot.pm line 77. <br>
        fetch_modules: error loading optional module
        Mail/SPF/Mod/Exp.pm: <br>
          Can't locate Mail/SPF/Mod/Exp.pm:   lib/Mail/SPF/Mod/Exp.pm:
        Permission denied at
        /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/Amavis/Boot.pm line 77. <br>
        fetch_modules: error loading optional module
        Mail/SPF/Mod/Redirect.pm: <br>
          Can't locate Mail/SPF/Mod/Redirect.pm:
         lib/Mail/SPF/Mod/Redirect.pm: Permission denied at
        /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/Amavis/Boot.pm line 77. <br>
        fetch_modules: error loading optional module
        Mail/SPF/SenderIPAddrMech.pm: <br>
          Can't locate Mail/SPF/SenderIPAddrMech.pm:
         lib/Mail/SPF/SenderIPAddrMech.pm: Permission denied at
        /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/Amavis/Boot.pm line 77. <br>
        fetch_modules: error loading optional module
        Mail/SPF/v1/Record.pm: <br>
          Can't locate Mail/SPF/v1/Record.pm:
         lib/Mail/SPF/v1/Record.pm: Permission denied at
        /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/Amavis/Boot.pm line 77. <br>
        fetch_modules: error loading optional module
        Mail/SPF/v2/Record.pm: <br>
          Can't locate Mail/SPF/v2/Record.pm:
         lib/Mail/SPF/v2/Record.pm: Permission denied at
        /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/Amavis/Boot.pm line 77. <br>
        fetch_modules: error loading optional module
        auto/NetAddr/IP/_compV6.al: <br>
          Can't locate auto/NetAddr/IP/_compV6.al:
         lib/auto/NetAddr/IP/_compV6.al: Permission denied at
        /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/Amavis/Boot.pm line 77. <br>
        fetch_modules: error loading optional module
        auto/NetAddr/IP/short.al: <br>
          Can't locate auto/NetAddr/IP/short.al:
         lib/auto/NetAddr/IP/short.al: Permission denied at
        /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/Amavis/Boot.pm line 77. <br>
        fetch_modules: error loading optional module
        auto/NetAddr/IP/InetBase/inet_any2n.al: <br>
          Can't locate auto/NetAddr/IP/InetBase/inet_any2n.al:
         lib/auto/NetAddr/IP/InetBase/inet_any2n.al: Permission denied
        at /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/Amavis/Boot.pm line 77. <br>
        fetch_modules: error loading optional module
        auto/NetAddr/IP/InetBase/inet_n2ad.al: <br>
          Can't locate auto/NetAddr/IP/InetBase/inet_n2ad.al:
         lib/auto/NetAddr/IP/InetBase/inet_n2ad.al: Permission denied at
        /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/Amavis/Boot.pm line 77. <br>
        fetch_modules: error loading optional module
        auto/NetAddr/IP/InetBase/inet_n2dx.al: <br>
          Can't locate auto/NetAddr/IP/InetBase/inet_n2dx.al:
         lib/auto/NetAddr/IP/InetBase/inet_n2dx.al: Permission denied at
        /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/Amavis/Boot.pm line 77. <br>
        fetch_modules: error loading optional module
        auto/NetAddr/IP/InetBase/inet_ntoa.al: <br>
          Can't locate auto/NetAddr/IP/InetBase/inet_ntoa.al:
         lib/auto/NetAddr/IP/InetBase/inet_ntoa.al: Permission denied at
        /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/Amavis/Boot.pm line 77. <br>
        fetch_modules: error loading optional module
        auto/NetAddr/IP/InetBase/ipv6_aton.al: <br>
          Can't locate auto/NetAddr/IP/InetBase/ipv6_aton.al:
         lib/auto/NetAddr/IP/InetBase/ipv6_aton.al: Permission denied at
        /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/Amavis/Boot.pm line 77. <br>
        fetch_modules: error loading optional module
        auto/NetAddr/IP/InetBase/ipv6_ntoa.al: <br>
          Can't locate auto/NetAddr/IP/InetBase/ipv6_ntoa.al:
         lib/auto/NetAddr/IP/InetBase/ipv6_ntoa.al: Permission denied at
        /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/Amavis/Boot.pm line 77. <br>
        fetch_modules: error loading optional module
        auto/Crypt/OpenSSL/RSA/new_public_key.al: <br>
          Can't locate auto/Crypt/OpenSSL/RSA/new_public_key.al:
         lib/auto/Crypt/OpenSSL/RSA/new_public_key.al: Permission denied
        at /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/Amavis/Boot.pm line 77. <br>
        fetch_modules: error loading optional module
        auto/Crypt/OpenSSL/RSA/new_key_from_parameters.al: <br>
          Can't locate
        auto/Crypt/OpenSSL/RSA/new_key_from_parameters.al:
         lib/auto/Crypt/OpenSSL/RSA/new_key_from_parameters.al:
        Permission denied at
        /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/Amavis/Boot.pm line 77. <br>
        fetch_modules: error loading optional module
        auto/Crypt/OpenSSL/RSA/get_key_parameters.al: <br>
          Can't locate auto/Crypt/OpenSSL/RSA/get_key_parameters.al:
         lib/auto/Crypt/OpenSSL/RSA/get_key_parameters.al: Permission
        denied at /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/Amavis/Boot.pm line 77.
        <br>
        fetch_modules: error loading optional module
        auto/Crypt/OpenSSL/RSA/import_random_seed.al: <br>
          Can't locate auto/Crypt/OpenSSL/RSA/import_random_seed.al:
         lib/auto/Crypt/OpenSSL/RSA/import_random_seed.al: Permission
        denied at /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/Amavis/Boot.pm line 77.
        <br>
        fetch_modules: error loading optional module Error.pm: <br>
          Can't locate Error.pm:   lib/Error.pm: Permission denied at
        /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/Amavis/Boot.pm line 77. <br>
        <br>
        All modules are installed, eg : <br>
        <br>
        [root@numenor ~]# locate Agent.pm <br>
        /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/mach/5.40/Razor2/Client/Agent.pm
        <br>
        <br>
        Any help appreciated <br>
        <br>
        Regards, <br>
        <br>
        Xavier </div>
      <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- 
Xavier HUMBERT - Unix/Win/MacOSX Sysadmin/Network Engineer
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.amdh.fr"
      moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.amdh.fr</a>
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    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- 
Xavier HUMBERT - Unix/Win/MacOSX Sysadmin/Network Engineer
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.amdh.fr">https://www.amdh.fr</a>
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