Scoring questions

[Computer Bob]

 > how could you come to this conclusion, when the only BAYES score you 
have
 > got was BAYES_50 and you've had no BAYES_ before?

Maybe it just me, but I don't see BAYES_50.

 > autolearn creates good starting database and it's often easier to 
re-train
 > on false-positives and false-negatives than train whole DB manually
 > (my experience on multiple servers)

For troubleshooting, this is the reason.

 > do you have razor and dcc installed?

Yes

 > note that checing the same message later may cause much more hits 
because of
 > network checks started hitting since.

I have checked immediately, but yes possible.

 > the question is, why do you have such different scores in amavis.

Exactly the reason for this thread.

 > did you modify scores in amavis' config file?

No, no modifications.


On 1/30/18 3:21 AM, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
> On 29.01.18 13:39, Computer Bob wrote:
>> I also agree that at this point auto learn should be off and cleared 
>> as I have done.
>
> how could you come to this conclusion, when the only BAYES score you have
> got was BAYES_50 and you've had no BAYES_ before?
>
> autolearn creates good starting database and it's often easier to 
> re-train
> on false-positives and false-negatives than train whole DB manually
> (my experience on multiple servers)
>
>> But I still continue to get garbage mails through showing headers 
>> such as:
>>
>> X-Spam-Flag: NO
>> X-Spam-Score: 0.61
>> X-Spam-Level:
>> X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.61 tagged_above=-9999 required=5
>>     tests=[HTML_FONT_LOW_CONTRAST=0.001, HTML_IMAGE_RATIO_04=0.61,
>>     HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001,
>>     T_REMOTE_IMAGE=0.01, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01]
>>     autolearn=no autolearn_force=no
>
> do you have razor and dcc installed?
> they help much when testing bulk mail / spam.
>
>> And as I said, when I run them through SA at the command line they 
>> seem to score correctly.
>
> note that checing the same message later may cause much more hits 
> because of
> network checks started hitting since.
>
> the question is, why do you have such different scores in amavis.
> did you modify scores in amavis' config file?
>
>