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<div style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 14px;">X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=18.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,CUSTOM_MANY_BL,<br /> HTML_FONT_LOW_CONTRAST,HTML_MESSAGE,MIME_HTML_ONLY,RCVD_IN_DNSBL_INPS_DE,<br /> RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_BL,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,RCVD_IN_UCEPROTECT2,<br /> RCVD_IN_UCEPROTECT3,RCVD_IN_WPBL,SPF_HELO_PASS,TVD_RCVD_SPACE_BRACKET,<br /> T_REMOTE_IMAGE,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY,URIBL_ABUSE_SURBL,URIBL_DBL_SPAM<br /> autolearn=spam autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1<br /><br />All the files are taken from /sonicle/etc/mail/spamassassin and /sonicle/share/spamassassin, and they looks to be read both manually and during postfix run, as many of the mails are caught and contains X-Spam-Status with tags taken from there (sare cf files, kam file, fili_br file etc).<br />Also, many of the auto-learnt mails get spammed after being trained.<br />The bayes is configured as :<br /><br />use_bayes 1<br />bayes_auto_learn 1<br />bayes_path /sonicle/var/spamassassin/bayes_db/bayes<br />bayes_file_mode 0777<br /><br />and here are the files:<br /><br />sonicle@www:~$ ls -l /sonicle/var/spamassassin/bayes_db<br />total 12699<br />-rw-rw-rw- 1 snclamav snclamav 25680 Jun 27 08:28 bayes_journal<br />-rw-rw-rw- 1 snclamav snclamav 10567680 Jun 27 07:58 bayes_seen<br />-rw-rw-rw- 1 snclamav snclamav 5128192 Jun 27 07:58 bayes_toks<br /><br />here are the amavis processes:<br /><br />sonicle@www:~$ ps -ef | grep amavisd<br />snclamav 23517 20393 0 07:43:58 ? 0:04 /sonicle/bin/perl -T /sonicle/sbin/amavisd -u snclamav -c /sonicle/etc/amavis/a...<br />snclamav 20393 6278 0 May 12 ? 0:49 /sonicle/bin/perl -T /sonicle/sbin/amavisd -u snclamav -c /sonicle/etc/amavis/a...<br />snclamav 29614 20393 0 08:28:49 ? 0:00 /sonicle/bin/perl -T /sonicle/sbin/amavisd -u snclamav -c /sonicle/etc/amavis/a...<br /><br />is there any way I can run amavisd manually exactly as postfix would do during an incoming email?<br />I bet I need debugging output, but enabling it live may fill my mail logs, and I would have to wait for some spam to get in.<br /><br />Thanks again,<br />Gabriele<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />
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<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif;">From:</span></strong><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif;"> amavis-users [mailto:amavis-users-bounces+dino.edwards=mydirectmail.net@amavis.org] <strong>On Behalf Of </strong>Gabriele Bulfon<br /> <strong>Sent:</strong> Monday, June 26, 2017 11:57 AM<br /> <strong>To:</strong> amavis-users@amavis.org<br /> <strong>Subject:</strong> different spamassassin behaviours</span></p>
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